New Female Dress Covers

Did I write about this already? Because it feels like I did. But I’m not sure and somebody said they came here during a search for the new covers so…

:::goes to check:::

Well what do you know…apparently I did: New Dress Blue Cover Design. But at the time it was all speculation so now we need an update! Plus the green cover is being replaced too, not just the white one.

From the Uniform Board’s website:

NEW FEMALE FRAME CAP: The new female frame cap will be introduced to the MCRDs in FY09. The cap is similar to the male cap in that there is one frame and two crowns (one green, one white). The braid for both caps will be black (no longer will have the red braid with the service cap). The cost of the caps will be equivalent to the male caps. The caps should be available for purchase in second quarter FY09 and the mandatory possession date for the new cap and phase out date for the old caps is 1 Oct 2012. See graphics here.

That link doesn’t work but here’s the photo I included on my first post:

This is not the green cover they are talking about though, they are talking about the hard one with the red frilly thing on it that I never ever wear. Its purpose in life is to take up space in my TMO shipments.

The Bad: Still ugly. Why oh why don’t we just use the male version for everyone? It looks TEN TIMES better and certainly it must be easier to keep track of only one item instead of two. I’m little and I’ve tried on male covers that fit well so sizes shouldn’t be an issue. We can all wear the same cammie sizes already anyway. Also, I think color guards and other ceremonial events look better when all the covers match.

The Good: At least somebody’s trying. With this style cover, I’ll be able to wear the bun of hair on my head where it belongs instead of dangling down around my neck like I do with the silly pointy duck-hat-thing. Being able to replace just the crown instead of the entire hat when I write on it with an ink pen will be nice too.

While we’re at it…what on EARTH is up with the sizing system?? At MSG school they issued us new covers and naive little me thought, “Cool, I walk in, grab a 22.5, and I’m done!”


The 22.5′s in the warehouse didn’t fit. Neither did the next three sizes up AND down. There was no graduated sizing at all. A 22 would cover my ears and a 23.5 would pop off my head all by itself. I still wear the now dirtyish, pen-covered one I was given at boot camp because the one I settled for at school is too big.

Yes, I wore the pen-marked hat to the ball.

P.S. Are we calling covers “caps” now or what?

27 thoughts on “New Female Dress Covers”

  1. “Frame Cap” is probably the official supply name for them, supply has some goofy names for everyday items. I don’t know about the keeping track of one item instead of two thing though. I have three dress covers. I have my piss cover, my green barracks cover, and my white dress blue cover. Even though you’re supposed to be able to put the white cover on the green frame, it just doesn’t look good, so I bought the premade white one. Most of the Marines I know did the same thing.

  2. I am Argentine and the military have played a controversial role at my country’s history. In the 1990s.the Menem administration abolished conscription and authorized women to join the Armed Forces. Though still a minority among Argentina’s military officers, women have contributed to the reshaping of my country’s military class. Anyway, the creation of female military units means a hard rethinking of military culture, after centuries of male military rule. I invite you to e-mail yours comments to and visit my blog ( Yours truly,

    Ernesto Vázquez

  3. You dirty Marines brag about murdering civilians and post pictures of decapitated Iraqi children.

    You filthy Marines are terrorists, just like your dirty whore mothers.

  4. I agree, there is no need for male and female covers. The word “uniform” has a meaning that should apply.

    Another thing I know is controversial but I always felt strongly about is that anyone of superior rank ought to be “sir” regardless of gender. This ma’am and sir crap is just confusing. “Yes, sir” should cover it. Period.

    I have been called ma’am on the radio many a time (damn it!) and I know I have called females sir by mistake. No matter which way you go, if you call a female sir or a male ma’am, either way you are getting a butt chewing. :(

    Why even play the game of guessing what sex Sgt. Johnson is?

    Never met anyone who agreed with me on that one though. :)

  5. Semper Fi…you guys and gals are awesome.

    Oh…and piss off, John. :)

    Chelle B.
    The Offended Blogger

  6. Hi: My daughter Robin Higgins retired from the Marine Corps as a Lt. Col. Her husband, Col. Rich Higgins was murdered in Lebanon in 1988 by arab terrorists. The USS HIGGINS (A DESTROYER) bears his name. But what I need to know is how you formatted your blog to have a background color and text in white. Please respond to me at

  7. please don’t take stupid comments like that “john senderson”‘s to heart.
    We do appreciate what your doing out there, thank-you.

  8. John Sanderson’s and idiot. No one in their right minds believes for a second any Marine would do any of that crap.

    You’re much loved, Marines.

  9. Why don’t they just have the same one for everyone? That makes sense to me.

    I’m blog hopping and enjoyed your posts. I love photography, too. Not so good at it but if you’d like to see New Zealand photos I have some at my blog :-)

  10. Simper Fi !!!
    You rock…as do all Marines.
    My husband retired after 23 years..I’m glad I found your blog…I miss the daily ‘talk’ about Corp life.
    I’ll read you daily.
    No pressure…;)

  11. Re the male/female covers. I totally agree – your eye just goes to the female Marines in formation because of the uniform differences. I think that the closer TPTB can make the uniform ‘look’, the better.

    BTW, John, when did you serve? When you have stood on that line with the rest of us, THEN you can talk trash. Until then, thank us for your freedom to be a blithering idiot and then STFU. (SOMEone’s mother obviously didn’t teach them manners, let alone gratitude and responsibility.)

    Karla, Mother of a Marine, Former USAF

  12. It totally sucks that we have to get this Covers but I guess one of these days they will make ours look like the guys. I personally like the guys covers it looks way better. I totally feel you on duck thing lol.

  13. Yeah, I like this cover better at least.. I know that my JROTC Armed Drill team has to spend over an hour french braiding our hair so it will fit with the other cover. Its a real bumm.

    The new idea for the dress blue top for females is a good one too, more ‘uniform’ without the white shirt and collar piece, just one whole thing that looks more like the males.

    Can’t wait to join the Marines with you!

    semper fi!

  14. “Semper Fi” I have been out for a long time, but you are awesome as are all Marines and all service members. The new cover is much better, I had long hair and had to find a way to french braid it tight enough to keep the cover perfect. Never an easy job.

    Thanks for serving…

    From a Former WM

  15. The red thing on the front of your green “bucket” cover is called a “capcord”. It has been on the cover of every woman who has served in the Corps since 1943. Women who paved the way so you could serve today.

    If nothing else, respect your history.

  16. Personally, I totally agree that we should have very similar uniforms to the male Marines. I am an MCROTC cadet at Virginia Tech and I’m also in the Corps of Cadets there. Our uniform consists of a co-ed wheel cover, that looks great even on us females. I don’t understand why that can’t be incorporated in the USMC. I’m just glad that they are doing something about the current covers, making them look much better! I hope the changes continue while still holding the heritage.

    Can’t wait to be one of the fewer and prouder in 2011, Semper Fi!

  17. I just graduated from Parris Island in December 07. It was definitely the experience of a lifetime; one I will never forget!
    I joined for several reasons; my late grandma was a marine in
    WW2 and I really admired her. However, her son, my father, was a draft dodger during the Vietnam War.
    I joined so scum like John and my father can still have the freedom to say the filthy things they say; they will never know what freedom costs because others have paid that price for them. I joined to give something back to my country.
    We did not ask for war; but our country called and we need to answer, as any true, red-blooded American should.
    To those who feel differently I want to say I’m sorry you don’t have the guts to be loyal to those who would and still are literally spilling their guts on a battlefield for your pathetic souls.
    Semper Fi.

  18. Looks like it may never happen. It would be a shame. It looks way better than the current frame cap.

  19. 1976-1980 USMC – Green Barracks Cover was standard, I couldn't have a White one, that was reserved for Officers. So glad they got rid of the unconforable summer uniforms (looked like some candy stripper).

    Good Blog, Thank you for writting.

    There are still so few of us WUSMC vets.

    Picture of me – 1976, right before graduation (before rank was awarded)seen

    Hollyecho Montgomery

  20. Sorry but I thought I’s stick this in…

    It Is The Soldier

    It is the Soldier, not the minister
    Who has given us freedom of religion.
    It is the Soldier, not the reporter
    Who has given us freedom of the press.
    It is the Soldier, not the poet
    Who has given us freedom of speech.
    It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer
    Who has given us freedom to protest.
    It is the Soldier, not the lawyer
    Who has given us the right to a fair trial.
    It is the Soldier, not the politician
    Who has given us the right to vote.
    It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,
    Who serves beneath the flag,
    And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
    Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

    Charles Michael Province, U.S. Army
    Copyright Charles M. Province, 1970, 2005
    Retrieved from International War Veterans Poetry Archives

    Now if we switch Soldier with Marine it still applies to both.

    Sorry John

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